If you're an engineer, and you produce some grading plans, and then pass the DTM off to a grading contractor, and there's an error in the DTM that doesn't show on the stamped plans. But it brings up another point of discussion that's maybe better for the Business Practice forum. Terramodel was BIM before BIM was cool, and I've always had a very high respect for the software. They're also your primary marketing tool, and they're a permanent record for litigation purposes. The "other school" contends that your deliverables serve more function than just telling a contractor what to build.
I've seen two schools of thought on this.
Well sure, but is the grading contractor your client? Is the grading contractor giving you your regulatory approval? Never met a grading contractor yet that gave a hoot how "pretty" the plans look.
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Hydrology, Drainage Analysis, Flood Studies, and Complex Stormwater Litigation for Atlanta and the South East - RE: Recommended Grading Software for HV Substation Design francesca (Civil/Environmental) 21 Oct 10 21:26 It's a shame so much of the art of engineering has been computerified. Proposed contours from DTMs always look terrible to me, so even if I've got a rockstar 3d modeling software to design with, I still prefer the final grading plan be done with polylines. Plans always looked like crap, but then again I may have just been working with crappy drafters. What drove me crazy wasn't its modeling capabilities, which were superb, it was the drafting. Pick and drag your road vertical alignment and watch the contours adjust to match / etc. I saw Terramodel do some pretty amazing "Civil 3d type" stuff around 2000 when AutoCAD was still stuck in the Softdesk days.
GT dropouts typically go into software development and make a lot more money than me. If you must know, the best civil designer I've ever worked with was a Purdue grad with a landscape architecture degree. Hydrology, Drainage Analysis, Flood Studies, and Complex Stormwater Litigation for Atlanta and the South East - RE: Recommended Grading Software for HV Substation Design livewire9 (Structural) No offense intended at all here because it's good work and I'd go for it, but pad grading a slab and a gravel access road is pretty much kids stuff, when it comes to the civil part anyway. If you're just looking to get that one project out the door for now to get some revenue flowing through your startup, you might consider hiring some guy off the Eng-Tips forum as a 1099 to just do the grading for you using Intellicad, or whatever else he's got. From my fiddling with it, it looked about like Land Development Desktop from the past few years, which is plenty fine to get done what you need done. If you're looking at a dozen or so projects a year consider Carlson. If you're buying something for a lot of future work, consider going Civ3D. And in the BIM benefits of having a 3d model when you're done, provided you can cash those in somehow. Where you make your money with Civil 3D isn't in designing a pad and a road, it's in designing 100 pads and 100 roads, with stormwater hydraulics and the whole shebang. I used to do this sort of work with AutoCAD 14 and Softdesk in about 6 hours back in the 90s, with software you can basically find laying in a gutter in the street nowadays. Compare that to Civil 3D, which would probably take, what, three hours francesca? Presuming you've already got all your road templates built out? Two if you're a rockstar? And that includes doing the cut/fill calculations *by hand* using the grid method. If they plan ahead and get the pad elevation right on the first stab, they could cut that time in half.
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At what point do you not pay the 10 grand for the Civil3D license and instead pay someone to engineer it using their brain?Ī talented designer could design your pad and balance your earthwork by hand using only the software you already have (AutoCAD) in about 16 hours total labor, and that includes two or three revisions to get the earthwork right.
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